Coffee? A good first date?


Today we have an article from a gentleman who goes by the moniker Roosh talking about coffee dates. It is his opinion that men should not go out on coffee dates. Lets see what he has to say:

One reason I don’t like coffee dates is because she doesn’t come to the date ready to perform or please. Instead, she wants to relax and let you make her feel warm and fuzzy inside over a non-alcoholic beverage.

A female blogger writes:
I LOVE coffee dates. They are totally casual and can be either long or short, depending on your shatter mode.

Exactly. Let me ask you this: have you ever first made out with someone on a coffee date? You haven’t — in fact, no one has. I don’t even see lovers making out in coffee shops. It just does not happen. When a girl wants to go on a coffee date, she is basically saying either she is not trying to hook up with you or does not want you to escalate your game. Safe and comfortable for her means late night masturbation for you. She gets to practice dating and feeling wanted on your clock.

If you don’t make out with a girl when you first meet her, you failed. If you don’t make out with her by the first date, you are a complete sucker. What are you waiting for? Be a man, get her in a bar, make her laugh over a couple drinks, and step up. If you are under 21, get a smoothie, go for a walk, sit on a bench in front of some pond with ducks, put your arm around her, and make it happen. If you are not making out with girls by the first date, you need to seriously work on your game. It doesn’t matter how old you are. If you think making out with girls by the first date is “too fast,” then you are a hopeless beta who probably doesn’t go on dates anyway.

Love Cop:
Clearly this guy is a douche who mistakenly thinks that success with women is making out with a girl on the first date. So much of what he says is so obviously wrong that I am sure I don’t have to even point it out so let’s focus on coffee date vs non-coffee date.
Ladies take note. If a guy is unwilling to go on a simple coffee on the first date then this is a RED FLAG. Use this to weed out guys like Roosh. He may have been funny and charming when you gave him your number but those witty lines could have been canned stories and routines that guys who fancy themselves pick up artists often use. Sit him down on a coffee date to see if there is some substance to him. If he is genuinely interested in you as a person, he will want to know more about you buy asking questions about you. If he isn’t, it will be more of the same routines.
Gentlemen take note. If a woman is unwilling to go on a simple coffee date with you on the first date then this is a RED FLAG. When women like you, they want to spend time getting to know you. A simple coffee date is a great way to do that. When they don’t like you they at least want to get an expensive meal, free drinks or tickets to that sold out concert for their time.
Secondly, looks are great. However, any guy who has ever dated a hot girl with an annoying personality can tell you it is nice if there is more to her than just her body. Use the coffee date as kind of a pre-date. Find out a little about her and see if she is someone you would like to take out again. The interesting thing is that when you pre-qualify a girl like this it makes you more attractive to her. Why? Because it shows that you are not overly aggressive or needy but are laid back and have standards. A man who is cool, confident and has options will take a laid back approach. He knows that she has to impress him just as much as he has to impress her. A man who is aggressive, impatient and needy will try and paw a woman as soon as he can. In a woman’s mind, who do you think she thinks is more attractive? Be that guy.

Remember Cadets, I am here to bring good men and good women together. Let the jerks date each other.

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